05-21-2021, 11:21 AM
(05-21-2021, 11:02 AM)fenders53 Wrote:(05-11-2021, 09:12 AM)divmenow Wrote:(05-11-2021, 09:08 AM)fenders53 Wrote:(05-11-2021, 09:06 AM)divmenow Wrote:I am very good with owning ENPH long-term. How happy I am in the end very much depends on the entry. We'll see where the bottom is soon enough.(05-11-2021, 09:00 AM)fenders53 Wrote: Dude I am a charter member of ENPH. I made a few hundred a month the past year selling short puts while it ran. I have a few short puts that are WAY in the money after this bloodbath. I can only roll forward so much before I own $140 shares. I said here many times I was good with adding a real position starting at $125. If I am honest I need ENPH to head back to $120ish to be back to even. I wasn;t aggressive enough when it was truly cheap. I'll add shares to my growthy port in the meantime.
Yeah yeah. What ever floats your boat lol
Well me too. Got in at $108.90
This will be a big winner for years to come. You have to add at some point, so why not today. I don't worry about making a few $ here and there . I'm in to win it lol
Are we having fun today
(05-21-2021, 10:53 AM)Otter Wrote:We agree for a change. The hell with T. That's what I say.(05-21-2021, 06:29 AM)NilesMike Wrote: I would not leave T for dead just quite yet.
"New" T w/o a large part of their debt, focused on T business, along with shares of the new entity may just work out well.
4%+ yield with the offer of growth is not bad.
I'd rather avoid the 16% drop in equity to $25/share (my guess as to where it ends up after slashing its dividend nearly in half). Lots of ETFs and other funds that own T as an aristocrat will be forced to divest, and a number of DGI investors who have relied on T as a big chunk of their income will do the same (likely well in advance, hence the drop from the recent $32+ highs as soon as the merger/spinoff was announced). There will be additional carnage in the stock price when the cut occurs.
So, I'm out. T is already in third place when it comes to 5G spectrum, and will be playing catch-up for years. Cooking up a merger/spinoff of an asset that was supposed to be a cornerstone of the business model just 18 months ago, and alienating your core shareholders in the process, is a sure sign of management that is inept (at best). I may invest in the HBO Max/Discovery SpinCo as a growth company once it debuts, but T is giving me strong GE/IBM vibes.
If not for conservative option tricks T has been a big fail if you care at all how it has performed against SPY for XXX years. Would I play it again if it gets crushed? Maybe, and I'll be out on the next short lived rally. I think T will do what it does for a good while. Just lay there and wait for an excuse to trade the lower end of it's range half the time.
I also think there is a good chance that T saddles the new SpinCo with a massive amount of debt, so that it won't be able to invest in growing its content library and user base like a "growth" company should be able to. That death by a thousand cuts should show up in the earnings reports a few years down the line. So, my investment in SpinCo will depend upon whether it is an actual company, or just a vehicle for getting rid of debt.