What Did You Buy Today?

[vbin]

I think it's worth to the least sell covered puts in PLTR. I have a few friends who are in similar tech space of data and there are 2 things worth noticing about PLTR
1. The barrier to entry is huuuge.
2. Pltr moat keeps growing.


There are a lot more things to say and honestly for serious investment you should spend some time researching it.

Lockup expiration is what I was waiting for, approx 3 times more stocks have become eligible for sale so do watch out for volatality. But a huge number of those eligible stocks are owned by founders. I would double my positive below $20, and triple below ($15, if it ever goes back there).

[fenders53]

(02-16-2021, 02:41 PM)vbin Wrote: I think it's worth to the least sell covered puts in PLTR. I have a few friends who are in similar tech space of data and there are 2 things worth noticing about PLTR
1. The barrier to entry is huuuge.
2. Pltr moat keeps growing.


There are a lot more things to say and honestly for serious investment you should spend some time researching it.

Lockup expiration is what I was waiting for, approx 3 times more stocks have become eligible for sale so do watch out for volatality. But a huge number of those eligible stocks are owned by founders. I would double my positive below $20, and triple below ($15, if it ever goes back there).

 I always research before a big investment and appreciate the more knowledgeable input here.  I ask here because I usually don't understand the tech.  I can look at the current financials on the future tech and it's usually very shaky vs SP.  It's pretty clear the market doesn't care about that for now.

The one question I have is if the MOAT is solid why are they struggling to even make any profit today? It's not a new company right?

[vbin]

"Moat is growing" it's not there yet. A lot of their rev comes from big corps and govt contracts and once these customers sign up they don't go away, dependency gets build up on the software/tech and stays like that for years unless the provider becomes incompetent over years and decades.

These integrations intentionally are designed hard to integrate and hard to decouple. Usually providers will give full support and discount for integration in order to facilitate the "hard to integrate" part and once onboard since these are hard to decouple systems, they stay with the customer for long time.( Think about all the logistics, architecture, training, budgeting, approvals) it takes months and years.

From what I know it was purely an engineer company with little emphasis on sales and that's changing.

The problems they are solving( unstructured data) is very hard to solve etc etc etc. What a lot of people don't realize is that these systems can be deployed in multiple domain and areas and opens up new frontiers for PLTR other then defence contracts. I will suggest some reading on them.

[stockguru]

(02-16-2021, 03:03 PM)fenders53 Wrote:

(02-16-2021, 02:41 PM)vbin Wrote: I think it's worth to the least sell covered puts in PLTR. I have a few friends who are in similar tech space of data and there are 2 things worth noticing about PLTR
1. The barrier to entry is huuuge.
2. Pltr moat keeps growing.


There are a lot more things to say and honestly for serious investment you should spend some time researching it.

Lockup expiration is what I was waiting for, approx 3 times more stocks have become eligible for sale so do watch out for volatality. But a huge number of those eligible stocks are owned by founders. I would double my positive below $20, and triple below ($15, if it ever goes back there).

 I always research before a big investment and appreciate the more knowledgeable input here.  I ask here because I usually don't understand the tech.  I can look at the current financials on the future tech and it's usually very shaky vs SP.  It's pretty clear the market doesn't care about that for now.

The one question I have is if the MOAT is solid why are they struggling to even make any profit today?  It's not a new company right?

This stock has been hyped since day 1 and just about ever board you visit says buy this stock. From buy buy buy its going to $100, to $50 this week lol. They missed earnings and rev estimates. And came in at negative 8 cents compared to 2 cent expected. And based on amortization contracts not sure they deserve a 53 billions market cap already.  It's also a heavily shorted stock as well. Seems expensive even at $28 a share.  They have a bright future but if I had the choice between PLTR and KTOS. My money is on KTOS. Its a name I own. 

Don't get me wrong. PLTR will be a nice company is a few years. There just not there yet. If it gets to $20 I will buy for sure. I played it from $18-34. Hoping to do it again lol

[Otter]

(02-16-2021, 03:18 PM)vbin Wrote: "Moat is growing" it's not there yet.  A lot of their rev comes from big corps and govt contracts and once these customers sign up they don't go away, dependency gets build up on the software/tech and stays like that for years unless the provider becomes incompetent over years and decades.

These integrations intentionally are designed hard to integrate and hard to decouple. Usually providers will give full support and discount for integration in order to facilitate the "hard to integrate" part and once onboard since these are hard to decouple systems, they stay with the customer for long time.( Think about all the logistics, architecture, training, budgeting, approvals) it takes months and years.

From what I know it was purely an engineer company with little emphasis on sales and that's changing.

The problems they are solving( unstructured data) is very hard to solve etc etc etc. What a lot of people don't realize is that these systems can be deployed in multiple domain and areas and opens up new frontiers for PLTR other then defence contracts. I will suggest some reading on them.

Their move into the corporate space is much more recent. PLTR initially received seed money from the CIA over a decade ago, as the agency saw the obvious national security implications of being able to spot meaningful trends in unstructured data. Unsurprisingly, law enforcement/homeland security/defense are some of their longest-standing customers. Their focus for the majority of their pre-IPO history was government contracts (steady, sticky, dependable income). 

There's the apocryphal story told by American Airlines' former CEO Bob Crandall, that the airline learned it could save over a million a year by removing one olive from each dinner salad served onboard. At the risk of oversimplifying for fenders and anyone else looking at the company, PLTR basically vacuums up data from a company's entire operations, and automates finding opportunities for trimming olives, or otherwise streamlining workflows. 

They have also mastered the art of making their software indispensable for employees at every level of a company that uses them. Once established within an organization, it would be extremely disruptive and traumatic for the organization to disconnect and use a different provider (similar to how IBM successfully entrenched itself in corporate America starting in the 1960s with computing and data services, but PLTR is just copying that move in the SaaS/analytics/workflow automation space).

[fenders53]

(02-16-2021, 03:22 PM)stockguru Wrote:

(02-16-2021, 03:03 PM)fenders53 Wrote:

(02-16-2021, 02:41 PM)vbin Wrote: I think it's worth to the least sell covered puts in PLTR. I have a few friends who are in similar tech space of data and there are 2 things worth noticing about PLTR
1. The barrier to entry is huuuge.
2. Pltr moat keeps growing.


There are a lot more things to say and honestly for serious investment you should spend some time researching it.

Lockup expiration is what I was waiting for, approx 3 times more stocks have become eligible for sale so do watch out for volatality. But a huge number of those eligible stocks are owned by founders. I would double my positive below $20, and triple below ($15, if it ever goes back there).

 I always research before a big investment and appreciate the more knowledgeable input here.  I ask here because I usually don't understand the tech.  I can look at the current financials on the future tech and it's usually very shaky vs SP.  It's pretty clear the market doesn't care about that for now.

The one question I have is if the MOAT is solid why are they struggling to even make any profit today?  It's not a new company right?

This stock has been hyped since day 1 and just about ever board you visit says buy this stock. From buy buy buy its going to $100, to $50 this week lol. They missed earnings and rev estimates. And came in at negative 8 cents compared to 2 cent expected. And based on amortization contracts not sure they deserve a 53 billions market cap already.  It's also a heavily shorted stock as well. Seems expensive even at $28 a share.  They have a bright future but if I had the choice between PLTR and KTOS. My money is on KTOS. Its a name I own. 

Don't get me wrong. PLTR will be a nice company is a few years. There just not there yet. If it gets to $20 I will buy for sure. I played it from $18-34. Hoping to do it again lol

Thanks.  I thought the market might be getting ahead of it, and nobody here has been making crazy short-term SP predictions because we are mostly sane lol.  I'll grab a PLTR put in a few days because the story sounds good and the option premiums are stupid good.  Still patiently waiting for that down 1K+ day that will shake some of the froth out of the fun stuff.

[Otter]

(02-16-2021, 03:22 PM)stockguru Wrote:

(02-16-2021, 03:03 PM)fenders53 Wrote:

(02-16-2021, 02:41 PM)vbin Wrote: I think it's worth to the least sell covered puts in PLTR. I have a few friends who are in similar tech space of data and there are 2 things worth noticing about PLTR
1. The barrier to entry is huuuge.
2. Pltr moat keeps growing.


There are a lot more things to say and honestly for serious investment you should spend some time researching it.

Lockup expiration is what I was waiting for, approx 3 times more stocks have become eligible for sale so do watch out for volatality. But a huge number of those eligible stocks are owned by founders. I would double my positive below $20, and triple below ($15, if it ever goes back there).

 I always research before a big investment and appreciate the more knowledgeable input here.  I ask here because I usually don't understand the tech.  I can look at the current financials on the future tech and it's usually very shaky vs SP.  It's pretty clear the market doesn't care about that for now.

The one question I have is if the MOAT is solid why are they struggling to even make any profit today?  It's not a new company right?

This stock has been hyped since day 1 and just about ever board you visit says buy this stock. From buy buy buy its going to $100, to $50 this week lol. They missed earnings and rev estimates. And came in at negative 8 cents compared to 2 cent expected. And based on amortization contracts not sure they deserve a 53 billions market cap already.  It's also a heavily shorted stock as well. Seems expensive even at $28 a share.  They have a bright future but if I had the choice between PLTR and KTOS. My money is on KTOS. Its a name I own. 

Don't get me wrong. PLTR will be a nice company is a few years. There just not there yet. If it gets to $20 I will buy for sure. I played it from $18-34. Hoping to do it again lol

The $0.02 consensus earnings estimates were non-GAAP. Non-GAAP earnings were $0.06. They beat by $0.04. 

The -$0.08 figure is GAAP.

Edited to add:

[fenders53]

Price to sales ratio is in the stratosphere. They'll have to hit or beat their growth numbers for an earnings report to move this. Market doesn't care much about this anyway as long as the story is good for the high flyers.

[rayray]

added to bmy

bought two starter positions, mostly to watch and keep a closer eye on--i'll do that buy a few shares 5 or 10 just to watch the equity more closely

stag

twou

[ken-do-nim]

(02-17-2021, 05:49 AM)rayray Wrote: added to bmy

bought two starter positions, mostly to watch and keep a closer eye on--i'll do that buy a few shares 5 or 10 just to watch the equity more closely

stag

twou

I've been watching BMY.  EPS negative, price lower than it was 5 years ago and for more than a year just choppy, pretty good dividend but I'm doubtful of its prospects for growth.

STAG looks interesting.

[fenders53]

(05-07-2020, 11:15 AM)kblake Wrote: bought WFC, GD, FRT, MO, PM and BRK.B

I'm still holding 48% cash for other opportunities

(02-16-2021, 02:09 PM)chascornell Wrote: Thinking about throwing down a F call for next year. What’s peoples thoughts on F? The Fed just announced all their cars will be EV, I think this should increase the stock price over time


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(02-17-2021, 06:44 AM)ken-do-nim Wrote:

(02-17-2021, 05:49 AM)rayray Wrote: added to bmy

bought two starter positions, mostly to watch and keep a closer eye on--i'll do that buy a few shares 5 or 10 just to watch the equity more closely

stag

twou

I've been watching BMY.  EPS negative, price lower than it was 5 years ago and for more than a year just choppy, pretty good dividend but I'm doubtful of its prospects for growth.

STAG looks interesting.

HEY!  I am trying to build a core BMY holding here.  Don't need that negativity.   

I like their growth prospects.  They are digesting a merger.  Most of my big pharma has been flat.  We need normal med procedures to restart.

[divmenow]

So I guess we have new leaders in the market now bidding up crap stocks like LDOS and getting big dips in AAPL, QCOM, LMT ect. This market is so whack. You have to be careful now in today’s market. Boy how things have changed, AAPL use to be loved. Now everyone is saying it’s going to $75 LMAO. Get real. I will be buying AAPL as soon as it dips below $130 today. Redit and all these chat boards are ruining the market and the good companies getting caught in the cross fire. Things could get really dangerous if this crap continues and will affect all of us and our retirement funds lol. I may just sell if all and buy CD’s. Anyone I just had to vent ??