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I'm Worried About MO
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(12-20-2021, 09:28 PM)Kerim Wrote: Yeah, I get those arguments, thanks. But you can't pay dividends out of 'adjusted' earnings. If my math isn't awful, they're paying out more than $6 billion a year in dividends, with nowhere near $6 billion in earnings. That can be fine if the balance sheet is good and it really is temporary.

I'm hoping to make time soon to dig into the financials a little deeper.

I'm worried about MO's balance sheet too. 

I used to be in the camp of "getting paid while I wait" with stocks, but I've shifted in the last couple of years to 'if I see warning signals, I'd rather get out sooner rather than later" camp. That's not to say I sell at the first sign of "smoke" (hardy har), but MO's less than stellar acquisitions, coupled with a secular decline in smoking and the IQOS decision presenting the latest legal setback--all together set off fire alarms. I have no idea if it will take 1 year or 10 years for a dividend cut to occur, but I'm fairly certain that management will continue to make decisions which erode shareholder value. 

I hope to continue selling my MO position in 2022, and exit it completely in 2023 (tax implications).
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I'm Worried About MO - by Kerim - 12-20-2021, 03:53 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by EricL - 12-20-2021, 04:40 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by Kerim - 12-20-2021, 09:28 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by kolpin - 12-20-2021, 11:56 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by cemanuel - 12-21-2021, 06:42 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by kolpin - 12-21-2021, 10:43 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by fenders53 - 12-21-2021, 09:13 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by Kerim - 12-21-2021, 09:53 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by fenders53 - 12-21-2021, 10:13 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by Scooterd - 12-21-2021, 10:34 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by Kerim - 12-21-2021, 10:46 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by fenders53 - 12-21-2021, 12:01 PM
I'm Worried About MO - by vbin - 12-21-2021, 11:17 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by cemanuel - 12-21-2021, 11:24 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by Kerim - 12-21-2021, 11:58 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by Kerim - 12-21-2021, 12:58 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by fenders53 - 12-21-2021, 01:31 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by ken-do-nim - 12-21-2021, 07:09 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by Kerim - 12-21-2021, 10:05 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by fenders53 - 12-22-2021, 09:32 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by ken-do-nim - 12-22-2021, 07:30 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by Kerim - 01-29-2022, 12:06 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by fenders53 - 01-29-2022, 03:47 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by Kerim - 06-26-2022, 12:33 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by fenders53 - 06-26-2022, 01:16 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by cemanuel - 06-27-2022, 06:51 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by fenders53 - 06-27-2022, 08:09 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by cemanuel - 06-29-2022, 07:24 AM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by fenders53 - 06-29-2022, 08:01 AM
I'm Worried About MO - by bankerboy - 09-24-2022, 07:02 PM
RE: I'm Worried About MO - by Kerim - 09-03-2023, 08:42 PM



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