The Baseball Thread!!!

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(06-23-2021, 07:07 PM)divmenow Wrote:

(06-23-2021, 02:50 PM)Otter Wrote: Poor Pete. Sitting on the outside of the HoF looking in while DKNG now has a $20 Billion market cap and every ESPN Radio show has a “and now here’s the latest lines from my guys in the desert” VSIN segment

First off. So he bet on baseball. So what Players have done way worse and are in the HOF. The all time hits leader deserves to be in, and should have a long time ago. Charlie Hustle was the man and played the game hard. I got too see him play lots since I'm from Philly. Think about this.. Jeter was a hitting machine and he still ended up 800 hits behind. That tell you just how good Rose was. He's now 80 and it's a shame he will never get in. 

From Rose....

 I’m not going to go to bed at night and dreaming about going into the Hall of Fame. I’m going to go to bed at night, hoping I get up tomorrow. [But] I would be the happiest guy in the world if I ever had that honor bestowed on me.”

Boyhood hero or not, (and he was), I don't really feel sorry for Rose. I did for a long time.  He was basically not apologizing for 20+ years.  He didn't get that it was wrong.  Just another form of competition.  He had to try to win whenever he was awake.  Same drive that made him head first slide nearing age 40 when his team was up or down more than 10 games in the standings.  He didn't possess any super human physical ability.

Last time I saw Rose was at Wrigley.  He was back with the Reds as player/manager.  Glory days were over years earlier.  Couldn't hit .300 anymore.  He'd already broken Cobb's record.  First inning he didn't like an umpires call and lost his mind arguing it.  I just knew he was going to get tossed.  Cub's fans were booing him like Cubs fan do. Next inning Rose inserts himself into the line-up and jacks one over the right field wall.  I doubt he hit 5 HRs a year by this point.  He was going to win this argument.  Winning is all he was ever wired for.  In an interview he said he was too slow to steal bases, so when he got a base hit he would steal an extra base if he thought he saw an outfielder being lazy.     

Bench, Morgan and others saw trouble years earlier.  Rose hung out with seedy characters in Cincy and he ignored their warnings.  They tried to get him to confess because they thought he might have a chance of saving his reputation and being forgiven eventually because he was Pete.  He wouldn't listen.  Not sure he even realized he was wrong.  I read his book and he clearly isn't normal.  He apologizes for something about every chapter and then throws in a paragraph attempting to justify what he just apologized for.  He moves to Vegas and launches a business, then applies for MLB re-instatement a few years later.  He doesn't get it and he never will.