(09-30-2021, 02:52 PM)Mr1share Wrote:I don't buy options. I average about $30-35K a year selling them in my boring way. My port isn't large enough to do that with dividends unless I put much of it in yield traps.(09-30-2021, 02:47 PM)fenders53 Wrote:Yeah options are just a waste of time for me. Normally you lose or break even. At least I do Just not worth all the effort for a few dollars lol(09-30-2021, 02:25 PM)Mr1share Wrote:MO has had share price drops like that. The math says I make more monthly income than the dividend not owning it by selling options. I've done it for years. I do own shares and collect divs though. Sometimes trim when it gets too expensive. It won't make sense if you don't understand how conservative option strategies work.(09-30-2021, 01:34 PM)fenders53 Wrote:(09-30-2021, 12:02 PM)Mr1share Wrote: If MO stays in this $45-50 range and pays out that nice dividend who cares about all that noise. That's good enough for me.The person that bought tobacco 10% higher last month cares. The whole sector has been a yield trap for over 5 yrs with virtually zero total return. You gotta pick your spots and know when to add and trim or it's futility. It would be OK if a mindless S&P fund didn't trounce it and you could screw up your index entry.
I dipped my toes into some tech. Just the ones that are down significantly like TDOC, TSM, QCOM, AMAT and have a reasonable PE . Just 5-10 shares each for now
TDOC without a PE but that these levels in 5 years it should pay off
I own a lot of tobacco and it's hard work to not lose money.
Some tech shopping for me. Not much is truly cheap but you gotta have some in the port.
Again doesn't matter about the 10%. Do the math and if you hold 5-10 years you will do a hell of a lot better holding and collecting the dividend. 100 shares would get you $360 a year and $3600 over 10 years. The stock would have to go down to $9 for you to lose money This is not even including dividend raises. So to me its well worth the risk.
And which tech did you buy? Let me guess ENPH
LOL, believe it or not I don't own many ENPH shares. I always have a put or three sold so one of these days I am going to wake up with a lot of shares. I'd like to own a little more GOOGL now, and probably a couple chip stocks. Mostly I just own QQQ, (which is pretty much just FANG+), then add a few shares to overweight it how I wish. I can keep the QQQ and adjust the lean from time to time if I care too. I'd rather just buy tech shares but I am no techie and it is easy to screw up. Few of the great tech stocks seem truly cheap and it's dangerous to be wrong so small bets outside the index. When the big one comes I always have cash. I am not wishing for that because tech is the economy just as much as SPY has always been. There will be no hiding if the indexes get hit hard. All we can do is collect dividends and hope.
I do have some calls out there in teach names just for fun. But I only play that side of it.
And MO is not going to $9 so I don't have much to worry about. I bet it goes to $50 before $40
I know you like ENPH. Future looks good but not sure earnings can justify even these levels. Under $120 I may buy some. It is on my watch list. Without an infrastructure bill these stocks are ran up in anticipation. DE and CAT are examples. Both have come down hard.
I bought my ENPH shares long ago at a far cheaper price. Yes it is expensive but it is easy to steal option theta decay from the gamblers up here.