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Anyone using covered puts
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(02-18-2019, 06:03 PM)NilesMike Wrote:
(02-18-2019, 05:27 PM)Kerim Wrote:  
 Of course, the question is risk. I love the idea of selling insurance in this manner, but I know enough to know that I have no idea how many different ways I could get creamed.

Everyone comes back to risk when discussing selling options. Good to be risk aware, but...

You like XYZ stock, it's trading for $45. You buy it @ 45 and now it's 40, you like it a little but still wish to keep it so all is good.

I like XYZ stock too and sell a 44 put for .85. Stock falls to 40, maybe I'm assigned maybe not. If I am assigned, my cost basis is 43.15.

Now who has more risk?

If we both decide that we no longer like XYZ and wish to exit.
I would sell a 45 call for say .80.
You would like to get out at 45 also for a scratch.
I collect 1.85 on the stock and .85 on the call. 2.70 profit on some minor gyrations of XYZ.  6% return in 2 cycles. 36% annualized

Now, who has more risk?

The only risk is that XYZ shoots like a rocket after I sell the put and I miss the upside. I like that trade off.
Good luck to all.
You know that's exactly what I do as well, but you did leave out some of the exit risk.  Mister Long sells at 45.  I sell a call that day and get my 85 cents, then my company is accused of selling asbestos laced soda pop.  Every day in a stock represents risk.  They can leave on a moments notice, we have to let some time ride out to claim the 85 cents.   

But I am still with you on your thesis.  Option is just a word that invokes fear, and done correctly it is irrational fear.
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Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 08-31-2018, 07:42 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by ChadR - 08-31-2018, 08:54 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by Kerim - 08-31-2018, 09:03 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 08-31-2018, 09:39 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by Kerim - 08-31-2018, 10:45 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 08-31-2018, 11:53 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 08-31-2018, 10:56 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by NilesMike - 09-01-2018, 03:08 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 09-01-2018, 04:14 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by NilesMike - 09-05-2018, 09:59 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 09-05-2018, 10:45 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by NilesMike - 09-06-2018, 06:09 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 09-06-2018, 11:58 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 09-07-2018, 09:40 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 09-07-2018, 01:41 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by NilesMike - 09-07-2018, 06:15 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 09-07-2018, 08:01 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 09-12-2018, 10:49 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 09-12-2018, 11:25 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 09-12-2018, 01:43 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by NilesMike - 09-12-2018, 06:15 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 09-13-2018, 09:24 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 09-13-2018, 11:03 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 09-13-2018, 11:48 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by NilesMike - 09-13-2018, 08:20 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 09-14-2018, 07:33 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 09-20-2018, 03:43 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 11-01-2018, 07:39 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by Kerim - 11-30-2018, 11:26 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 11-30-2018, 12:42 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 11-30-2018, 09:29 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by Kerim - 11-30-2018, 01:07 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 11-30-2018, 04:48 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 11-30-2018, 10:22 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 12-01-2018, 09:18 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by Kerim - 11-30-2018, 01:29 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by ChadR - 11-30-2018, 04:01 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by Kerim - 11-30-2018, 04:41 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 11-30-2018, 05:07 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 11-30-2018, 05:08 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by Kerim - 12-01-2018, 01:29 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 12-01-2018, 05:50 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 12-01-2018, 10:10 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 12-02-2018, 07:09 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 12-02-2018, 06:01 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 12-02-2018, 08:57 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 12-02-2018, 09:10 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 12-03-2018, 08:32 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 12-03-2018, 10:39 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 12-03-2018, 11:48 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by Kerim - 12-03-2018, 10:59 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by NilesMike - 12-04-2018, 11:06 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 12-05-2018, 01:07 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by Kerim - 12-07-2018, 03:25 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by ChadR - 12-07-2018, 03:32 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 12-07-2018, 05:17 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 12-26-2018, 06:09 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 01-01-2019, 11:47 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by Kerim - 01-01-2019, 12:16 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 01-01-2019, 01:04 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 02-17-2019, 01:30 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 02-17-2019, 09:18 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 02-17-2019, 11:01 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by NilesMike - 02-17-2019, 09:25 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 02-17-2019, 08:09 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 02-18-2019, 05:32 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 02-18-2019, 07:17 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by Kerim - 02-18-2019, 05:27 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 02-18-2019, 07:09 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 02-18-2019, 07:10 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by crimsonghost747 - 02-18-2019, 10:31 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 02-19-2019, 08:14 AM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by NilesMike - 02-18-2019, 06:03 PM
RE: Anyone using covered puts - by fenders53 - 02-18-2019, 07:05 PM



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